F1 2009 season thread

#43
yeah was good race, Vettel was on another level to the other guys.

Ferrari... need to work on reliability, I think Massa could have got a podium if his engine didnt bail on him, and Raikonnen he needs to wake up and start driving.

Also had hopes for Alonso but his tactic kind of failed.
 

Krystian

Lamborghini President
#44
That was very exciting race. F1 with crashes is so cool. Tho I'm a bit disappointed, Massa didn't finished, BMW got bad positions, McLiar gets faster :/ 2 moments made my day: 1st, when Kubica run on Sutil and second when Trulli spined and crashen on wall. I know there is noting fun in this but that makes sports more exciting, F1 is so boring be cause of small amount of taking over and almost no fight :/

 

Jomar Machado

Well-Known Member
#48
I'm a great fan of Ferrari but the team nowadays seems out of order...

I don't think Massa is in the same podium as Fittipaldi, Piquet or Senna...but the Ferrari has been an obstacle to him to reach the victories...

One day, the brakes are broken...the other, are the electrical parts...sometimes the pit stop is all crazy...

Some people from the team left Ferrari and now we are missing them... ;)
 
#49
I'm a great fan of Ferrari but the team nowadays seems out of order...

I don't think Massa is in the same podium as Fittipaldi, Piquet or Senna...but the Ferrari has been an obstacle to him to reach the victories...

One day, the brakes are broken...the other, are the electrical parts...sometimes the pit stop is all crazy...

Some people from the team left Ferrari and now we are missing them... ;)
Yeah Im also a great fan of Ferrari, I honestly think Raikonnen is better than Massa, but something is wrong because he just doesnt race properly, either Ferrari want Massa to win or something, one thing is for sure, Ferrari need to improve reliability.
 
#50
Qualy: An all Toyota front row for Bahrain - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com

Bahrain Qualifying

Times
01 J. Trulli Toyota 1:33.431
02 T. Glock Toyota 1:33.712
03 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:34.045
04 J. Button Brawn GP 1:34.044
05 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:34.196
06 R. Barrichello Brawn GP 1:34.239
07 F. Alonso Renault 1:34.578
08 F. Massa Ferrari 1:34.818
09 N. Rosberg Williams 1:35.134
10 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:35.380
11 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:33.242
12 K. Nakajima Williams 1:33.348
13 R. Kubica BMW 1:33.487
14 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:33.562
15 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:33.941
16 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:33.722
17 S. Buemi Toro Rosso 1:33.753
18 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:33.910
19 M. Webber Red Bull 1:34.038
20 S. Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:34.159

Trulli pole o_O
 

The IC

uses too many smileys
#54
Max Mosley should quit... Ferrari have been running in F1 ever since it started, and for the first time in over 50 years they've not been to this stage...

Sky Sports | Home | News | Ferrari set to quit F1
Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW and Toyota should dump F1 and go back to LeMans...in fact, Audi only started their dominance after the latter three left :p..theyd all need diesels/hybrid diesels though

i can dream...
 
#55
From what i understand ferrari isnt the only ones going to leave if the budget caps go in, toyota, redbull, are set to leave as well.

and if you think about if they do put the budget caps in, williams and brawn are the only teams left. cause with ferrari out who are McLaren going to cheat from??

i would also like to see ferrari back in a leMans series, bring back the P cars.
 
#56
So true, FIA needs to rethink its strategy, they're going to lose all the big teams,

"and if you think about if they do put the budget caps in, williams and brawn are the only teams left. cause with ferrari out who are McLaren going to cheat from??"

LMAO. good point, in fact its already started, within 24hrs of Ferrari saying they'll pull out, Renault have joined them

Sky Sports | Home | News | Renault join cap protest

they should start their own uber series, where you develop with little or no limits, after all it is about going forward with technology, not about this cost saving nonsense, Ferrari themselves made 53million euros profit from the first quarter of this year, they hardly have a customer base for the masses so if they can do it, Renault, Red Bull, Toyota, Mclaren can all do it, the other teams should just have to step it up a notch.

I mean they're killing advancement in this technology, and since a lot of things in cars nowadays is derived from F1, FIA are killing the car market too?
 

Krystian

Lamborghini President
#58
Time to bring this topic back.

Long time no posted so maybe let's post a drivers classifications:

[TITLE]DRIVERS CLASSIFICATION[/TITLE]
Pos Driver Nationality Team Points
1 Jenson Button British Brawn-Mercedes 64
2 Rubens Barrichello Brazilian Brawn-Mercedes 41
3 Sebastian Vettel German RBR-Renault 39
4 Mark Webber Australian RBR-Renault 35.5
5 Jarno Trulli Italian Toyota 21.5
6 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 16
7 Nico Rosberg German Williams-Toyota 15.5
8 Timo Glock German Toyota 13
9 Fernando Alonso Spanish Renault 11
10 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Ferrari 10
11 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 9
12 Nick Heidfeld German BMW Sauber 6
13 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish McLaren-Mercedes 4
14 Sebastien Buemi Swiss STR-Ferrari 3
15 Robert Kubica Polish BMW Sauber 2
16 Sebastien Bourdais French STR-Ferrari 2
17 Giancarlo Fisichella Italian Force India-Mercedes 0
18 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Mercedes 0
19 Nelsinho Piquet Brazilian Renault 0
20 Kazuki Nakajima Japanese Williams-Toyota 0

So as you can see, Brawn GP is still on top :) Right after it we've got another duet but this time from RedBull Racing. As you can see, the drivers who was rather in bottom of the table are now on top. IMO this season is more like only cars race. I mean, drivers without any long experience in F1 can be on the top without any problems (ok, except Force India, but they were always weak xD)

[TITLE]Now the current GP, Nurburgring :) [/TITLE]

I have to say that I definitely love this track because of the mix of fast and slow sectors. That must be pretty hard track for most of the drivers.
Today's Qualifications says who is good on this ring or who is bad :)
As we can see, Lewis Hamilton, is back. McLaren did some quick upgrades to their car and it seams it works as it used to be. We can't say it about BMW. Of course they did some updates to their car but they are still too slow. For example Nick, could get some nice place but he had problems with tires temperature, then Robert had some problems with engine. Williams was pretty nice at British GP but now... :/ Adrian Sutill made me happy today. He must be great driver if he did better times than Ferrari in such a slow car xD

IMO the most part of the Sundays race will be the weather. Who knows, maybe it will be sunny so BrawnGP shouldn't have any problems with warming up their tires, or it will be raining which can help BMW in getting some points. Who know :p
[TITLE]Nurburgring Qualifications[/TITLE]
Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:31.257 1:38.038 1:32.230
2 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:31.482 1:34.455 1:32.357
3 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:31.568 1:39.032 1:32.473
4 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:31.430 1:39.504 1:32.480
5 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.473 1:39.149 1:32.616
6 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.881 1:40.826 1:33.859
7 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:32.015 1:36.740 1:34.316
8 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:31.600 1:41.708 1:34.574
9 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:31.869 1:41.730 1:34.710
10 8 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:32.128 1:35.737 1:34.803
11 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:31.771 1:42.310
12 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:31.302 1:42.318
13 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:31.884 1:42.500
14 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:31.760 1:42.771
15 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:31.598 1:42.859
16 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:32.190
17 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:32.251
18 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:32.402
19 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:32.423
20 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:33.559
 
#59
More info about qual:

Webber 661,0 kg
Barrichello 647,0 kg
Button 644,0 kg
Vettel 661,0 kg
Hamilton 654,5 kg
Kovalainen 664,0 kg
Sutil 678,5 kg
Massa 673,5 kg
Räikkönen 674,0 kg
Piquet 676,0 kg
Heidfeld 681,0 kg
Alonso 668,2 kg
Nakajima 683,6 kg
Trulli 683,7 kg
Rosberg 689,6 kg
Kubica 673,5 kg
Buemi 674,5 kg
Fisichella 662,5 kg
Bourdais 689,5 kg
Glock 662,3 kg

As you can see, Sutil did good laptime with quite heavy car. I hope, Force India would get first points ever. Also, I would like see Webber at first place. And Robert... He was very unlucky at Q1. Maybe he would get some higher place in race.
 

Krystian

Lamborghini President
#60
[TITLE]After-Party News[/TITLE]
Like always, after qualifications, race, anything there are some after party news.
This time we've got:
Timo Glock, after blocking Fernando Alonso in Q1 gets 3 places back in starting grid. So he gets 20th (Oh god, what a punish, they took his 19th place!!!)

Next one is:
Red Bull gets 10k Euro's fine because Vettel almost crashed Nakajima while leaving pit stop. Isn't that too much O_O ?